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		<title>By: krazycat</title>
		<link>http://www.thisspaceblank.com/?p=471&#038;cpage=1#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>krazycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DelphiPro, I clearly see this is important to you, but it doesn&#039;t belong in a discussion of the Amazon issue. 

If you want to talk about IMBRA and your issue with feminists, please feel free to do so in your own blog. Make a website, show your outrage on twitter, basically &lt;i&gt;do what we&#039;ve been doing all weekend&lt;/i&gt;. Raise the issue with the media and try to create discussion. Don&#039;t hijack a post of a completely different topic and try to steer towards what you want to talk about. Trying to raise visibility for your cause is admirable, but is better raised in posts that are more directly relevant to the post you&#039;re commenting at. 

I&#039;m sorry, but I&#039;m not going to allow further comments about IMBRA etc on this post. This post is about censorship of products in the world&#039;s largest outlet for books. It&#039;s a very important issue for a lot of writers and bloggers, so unless you can keep to the subject matter (and refrain from using words like &#039;hissyfit&#039; when talking about women who are displeased with something), I would ask you to please refrain from commenting on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DelphiPro, I clearly see this is important to you, but it doesn&#8217;t belong in a discussion of the Amazon issue. </p>
<p>If you want to talk about IMBRA and your issue with feminists, please feel free to do so in your own blog. Make a website, show your outrage on twitter, basically <i>do what we&#8217;ve been doing all weekend</i>. Raise the issue with the media and try to create discussion. Don&#8217;t hijack a post of a completely different topic and try to steer towards what you want to talk about. Trying to raise visibility for your cause is admirable, but is better raised in posts that are more directly relevant to the post you&#8217;re commenting at. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I&#8217;m not going to allow further comments about IMBRA etc on this post. This post is about censorship of products in the world&#8217;s largest outlet for books. It&#8217;s a very important issue for a lot of writers and bloggers, so unless you can keep to the subject matter (and refrain from using words like &#8216;hissyfit&#8217; when talking about women who are displeased with something), I would ask you to please refrain from commenting on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: DelphiPro</title>
		<link>http://www.thisspaceblank.com/?p=471&#038;cpage=1#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>DelphiPro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s worse, feminists can get away with using slanderous terms like &quot;mail order bride&quot; and &quot;marriage broker&quot; to depict American men who meet foreign women the same way that any two people meet on Match.com or eHarmony.com.  And yet they have a hissyfit when Amazon stops carrying a few books.  What an outrage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s worse, feminists can get away with using slanderous terms like &#8220;mail order bride&#8221; and &#8220;marriage broker&#8221; to depict American men who meet foreign women the same way that any two people meet on Match.com or eHarmony.com.  And yet they have a hissyfit when Amazon stops carrying a few books.  What an outrage!</p>
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		<title>By: DelphiPro</title>
		<link>http://www.thisspaceblank.com/?p=471&#038;cpage=1#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>DelphiPro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Johnson&#039;s point is that feminists always cry &quot;foul&quot; when censorship or &quot;moral policing&quot; is directed against them, but they seem to have no problem dishing it to men.

When laws like IMBRA, which effectively censors the way men can use international personals ad columns to meet women, are passed, where is the &quot;we don&#039;t want government to be the moral police&quot; cry?  Where is the &quot;we don&#039;t want censorship&quot; cry?

Why doesn&#039;t &quot;morality&quot; go both ways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Johnson&#8217;s point is that feminists always cry &#8220;foul&#8221; when censorship or &#8220;moral policing&#8221; is directed against them, but they seem to have no problem dishing it to men.</p>
<p>When laws like IMBRA, which effectively censors the way men can use international personals ad columns to meet women, are passed, where is the &#8220;we don&#8217;t want government to be the moral police&#8221; cry?  Where is the &#8220;we don&#8217;t want censorship&#8221; cry?</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t &#8220;morality&#8221; go both ways?</p>
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		<title>By: krazycat</title>
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		<dc:creator>krazycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last commenter, your comment is irrelevant to the subject matter at hand and has been removed. I am marking you as spam if you comment in a similar way again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last commenter, your comment is irrelevant to the subject matter at hand and has been removed. I am marking you as spam if you comment in a similar way again.</p>
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		<title>By: krazycat</title>
		<link>http://www.thisspaceblank.com/?p=471&#038;cpage=1#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>krazycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vixalicious is a Straight American. You don&#039;t have to identify as gay to be outraged by this censorship. She is also not asking for heterosexual adult novels to be removed - but if the argument is that adult novels are to be removed from search, shouldn&#039;t they all be, not just the gay ones? She&#039;s asking for consistency, and I agree with her.

The good thing about Amazon has always been that they cater equally to everyone, that they weren&#039;t pushing a specific agenda. For those of us who like to read about gender identity, queerness etc (I read a lot of this when researching my thesis on the very masculine part of rock culture that manifests in mosh pits), to have negative works getting preference over positive works in searches for political reasons is quite shocking.  

As for your opinion that these books should never have been published to begin with - that&#039;s an opinion we will never be able to agree on. 

You&#039;re going to have to argue the IMBRA stuff with someone else - I&#039;m European (and an immigrant in the country where I live) so I have no expertise on the details of your American politics. But the issue of Amazon affects consumers all over the world, not just over there. As someone who has been a customer of amazon.com since the late 90&#039;s, I think I&#039;m allowed to have an opinion as a consumer.

Could you please back up your claim that 80% of gay people are lesbian with a source? I don&#039;t accept arguments like that as facts unless you can show a reputable source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vixalicious is a Straight American. You don&#8217;t have to identify as gay to be outraged by this censorship. She is also not asking for heterosexual adult novels to be removed &#8211; but if the argument is that adult novels are to be removed from search, shouldn&#8217;t they all be, not just the gay ones? She&#8217;s asking for consistency, and I agree with her.</p>
<p>The good thing about Amazon has always been that they cater equally to everyone, that they weren&#8217;t pushing a specific agenda. For those of us who like to read about gender identity, queerness etc (I read a lot of this when researching my thesis on the very masculine part of rock culture that manifests in mosh pits), to have negative works getting preference over positive works in searches for political reasons is quite shocking.  </p>
<p>As for your opinion that these books should never have been published to begin with &#8211; that&#8217;s an opinion we will never be able to agree on. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re going to have to argue the IMBRA stuff with someone else &#8211; I&#8217;m European (and an immigrant in the country where I live) so I have no expertise on the details of your American politics. But the issue of Amazon affects consumers all over the world, not just over there. As someone who has been a customer of amazon.com since the late 90&#8242;s, I think I&#8217;m allowed to have an opinion as a consumer.</p>
<p>Could you please back up your claim that 80% of gay people are lesbian with a source? I don&#8217;t accept arguments like that as facts unless you can show a reputable source.</p>
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		<title>By: Caito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, Frank? Could you maybe run that one by me again? I&#039;m sorry, I don&#039;t speak Troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, Frank? Could you maybe run that one by me again? I&#8217;m sorry, I don&#8217;t speak Troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many of these moronic queer lesbian feminist propaganda books would ever make it to the best sellers list anyway? (for normal people that is.) These books should never even be published to begin with.

I think we already have enough problems with queer lesbians like Bahai Faith lesbian feminists sneaking in laws like IMBRA which tries to ban heterosexual communication and marriage between American men and normal foreign women. Who elected Bahai Faith feminists to be the morality police?

Good for you Amazon. I guarantee you that there are far more normal customers of yours who don’t want to see this feminist crap than there are queer lesbian feminists who have nothing better to do than to write this lesbian feminist propaganda junk.

Funny how”angry” she (80 % of gay people are lesbian women) screams that normal heterosexual sex novels should be removed. “Angry” She would like that replaced with graphic queer lesbian feminist graphic sex novels instead.

These queer lesbian feminists are always “angry” at something or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of these moronic queer lesbian feminist propaganda books would ever make it to the best sellers list anyway? (for normal people that is.) These books should never even be published to begin with.</p>
<p>I think we already have enough problems with queer lesbians like Bahai Faith lesbian feminists sneaking in laws like IMBRA which tries to ban heterosexual communication and marriage between American men and normal foreign women. Who elected Bahai Faith feminists to be the morality police?</p>
<p>Good for you Amazon. I guarantee you that there are far more normal customers of yours who don’t want to see this feminist crap than there are queer lesbian feminists who have nothing better to do than to write this lesbian feminist propaganda junk.</p>
<p>Funny how”angry” she (80 % of gay people are lesbian women) screams that normal heterosexual sex novels should be removed. “Angry” She would like that replaced with graphic queer lesbian feminist graphic sex novels instead.</p>
<p>These queer lesbian feminists are always “angry” at something or another.</p>
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